IN THE HOUSE ~ Question ~ this government has to take responsibility for the Phoenix fiasco

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Context : Supplementary Question

    Mr. Peter Julian (New Westminster—Burnaby, NDP): Mr. Speaker, the Liberal government has to take responsibility for the Phoenix fiasco. It was its decision to proceed on February 28, 2016, that has led to this debacle. Dedicated public servants are losing their homes. Communities are being devastated. The government should have done its due diligence. The Phoenix system in Australia was a fiasco and Liberals' did not even bother to check. It took four months to clean up in Australia. Here it has been two years and the government has done nothing.

    Why such a profound lack of respect for Canada's public servants?

    Hon. Carla Qualtrough (Minister of Public Services and Procurement, Lib.): Mr. Speaker, we certainly have the utmost respect for our public servants, certainly more than the previous government that is for sure.

    We had a choice in February 2016, and let me tell the House what that was. We had a choice between the new system or no system. The previous Conservative government had fired compensation advisors, had decommissioned the former system. As an aside, we were being advised that it was okay by our officials to proceed.

    The Speaker: Hon. members seem to have forgotten the rule against interruptions and I have to remind them of that. I would ask them to listen despite what they may or may not like in what they hear. I am sure members on all sides have things they do not like, but most members on all sides are able to control themselves.


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